Posts by rip van winkle

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Is the Watchtower Corporation guilty of purposely infusing a overwhelming amount of fear to control people ?

by Finkelstein in

if you were to pin point out the workings of the wts., of what attracts people to the.

organization and what is the catalyst that controls them once.

they are inside of it, the conclusion would most likely be drawn that fear is the paramount.

rip van winkle

Heaven said:

I can also see it being a motivating factor for joining.

Sad, but true!!!

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Intense emotional dream

by fade_away in

i had a dream last night i don't think i'll ever forget.. .

you see, my brother passed away a few months ago from an asthma attack at the age of 36. i've been learning to accept it and trying to move on, but last night a dream re-opened the wound a bit in a good way.

i dreamt that he was still alive but he knew and we all knew he was about to die...as if it was a terminal illness he had instead.

rip van winkle

I cried reading your post Fade_away. Actually I'm still crying. I am deeply sorry for your tremendous loss of your brother.

But, it really was a lovely, lovely dream. Thank you for sharing it. I'm glad that it brought you comfort.

I dream about my mom all the time and she passed away 2 years ago.

From the time she was diagnosed till the time she died was 7 months ( 4 more months than was expected)., so I had the chance to say "Goodbye" and I am so grateful.

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Knowing the Real Truth about the "truth" when you're stuck inside...

by OneDayillBeFree in

...sucks.

(warning: this could get lengthy but i have to vent and i could really use some advice).

i know ttatt and have known about it for almost 2 years, yet i'm still stuck inside.

rip van winkle

ODIBF- It's wonderful you started the ball rolling. Continue to follow through with your plans.

Please remember that there will be high's and lows in the process. Try to stay positive and move forward to achieve your goals.

And if you ever have an inkling of discouragement you must reach out for help.

Please don't ever allow yourself to suffer through your pain alone.

Now, get started on your life!!!

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New girl in town here for support

by joyfulfader in

hi everyone here on jwn.

i admit to being a lurker for quite some time before joining and now i am ready to post and i want to introduce myself.

i am/was 3rd generation and daughter of the po (as it was termed at the time) for most of my life.

rip van winkle

Joyful Fader- Welcome!!! You have definitely been down a difficult road. No need to kick yourself.

You were indoctrinated. It will take time for you to sort out what you believe to be true or not. I'm in the process of that now.

Remember Joyful, it took many years for your belief system to be formed. Try not to regret your past decisions-they weren't made with your whole ability of reasoning.

Glad you're here!!!

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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

by Balaamsass in

no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.

called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.

every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.

rip van winkle

Yes 3rdgen. But what is also so repugnant is the way the three elders were removed and how

Elder Cobb was made to look like a thief before the congregation!!!

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"we were just talking...shes not free to remarry...we werent flirting or doing anything wrong"

by WuzLovesDubs in

thats what my soon to be exhusband just said to me.

i finally after 25 years of dealing with him and the jws and a litany of other shit, told him two weeks ago i want out.

he wrote me a letter this week and made a list of allllll the things he hates: about my beliefs, the fact that i left jehovah, broke my vows to god, my hobbies, celebrations, what i watch on tv, my parenting, keeping the kids out of the jws, not having any friends....and then said well i dont hate "you".

rip van winkle

King Sol- good point.

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Is the Governing Body EVIL or IGNORANT?

by cedars in

some of you will have noticed that i've been paying a lot of attention to the governing body recently.

this is because most jehovah's witnesses venerate them collectively (even if they can't name them individually), and i feel this makes it important to understand this group of men properly and expose their mindset as individuals.

as the saying goes, i feel it's important to "know your enemy".. i realize it's very convenient to think of the governing body as being "evil" when we consider that they are ultimately responsible for all the damaging jw teachings and beliefs.

rip van winkle

When men in authority allow irreparable harm of children and families for years,

and do nothing to change it;when it is in their power to do so, is that evil?

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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

by Balaamsass in

no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.

called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.

every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.

rip van winkle

The corruption is from the tippy tops of the Org.

When I first read about Menlo Park and the lawsuit I was shocked.

I really had no idea about the money laundering (that's what it is).

How brilliant was it to come up with a scheme to use tax-free donations, then turn around and make a non-taxable profit by lending $$$ + interest to refub KH's and then retain the title to the Hall!!!!!!!

They are unscrupulous.

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Do you believe in Love?

by freeflyingfaerie in

jw
friends

maybe you are an atheist.. maybe you are agnostic.. you have left a cult, left behind an entire belief system, complete with detailed instructions on how to live..rules to follow for every aspect of your very life.

you know it was a big lie.. you are now naked, staring at your soul.

just you, just your own thoughts, just your own voice, your own feelings.

rip van winkle

Yes, the unconditional kind.

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"we were just talking...shes not free to remarry...we werent flirting or doing anything wrong"

by WuzLovesDubs in

thats what my soon to be exhusband just said to me.

i finally after 25 years of dealing with him and the jws and a litany of other shit, told him two weeks ago i want out.

he wrote me a letter this week and made a list of allllll the things he hates: about my beliefs, the fact that i left jehovah, broke my vows to god, my hobbies, celebrations, what i watch on tv, my parenting, keeping the kids out of the jws, not having any friends....and then said well i dont hate "you".

rip van winkle

Hi Wuz, I'm sorry for your hurt feelings and anger over your situation with your husband.

Do you think that maybe he was trying to hurt your feelings since you are the one asking for a divorce and his feelings are hurt?

Anyway, if you're serious about divorcing him, then what does it matter if he is or isn't cheating, unless that's part of the cause of action for the divorce?

Try to let his comments roll off like water on a duck's back.

Think about your freedom and the life you are planning for yourself!!!